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(1948-1951 125-150 hp flathead)
(335 Series Engine Family (Cleveland) (302C/351C/351M/400))
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== 335 Series Engine Family (Cleveland) (302C/351C/351M/400) ==
 
== 335 Series Engine Family (Cleveland) (302C/351C/351M/400) ==
Made in Cleveland Engine Plant #2 or Michigan Casting Center.
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*Made in Cleveland Engine Plant #2 or Michigan Casting Center.
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*Made in Ford Australia-Geelong plant 1974 - circa 1984. 302C & 351C only.
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*8 cap screws retain rocker cover.
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*Timing chain housing is part of block casting.
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*Thermostat housing on block.
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*Fuel pump mounting bolts are vertical.
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*Exhaust bolt holes diagonal.
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*351M/400: Intake is 12.7" wide the 351C is narrower (Differing Deck Heights). 302C/351C manifold approx. 11" wide (280mm).
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*It is difficult to differentiate a 351M from a 400 externally. The most accurate way is to remove the oil pan and look at the crank.
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*400 Crankshaft ID. http://www.tmeyerinc.com/400crankshaftid.html
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*351M/400 share the same transmission bolt pattern as the 429/460 (385 series)motors. One exception. The 400 was available with FMX in full size Fords in the early 70's and has the smaller bolt pattern.
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*All 302C/351C blocks use the smaller 6 bolt transmission pattern, C4 or "Windsor" type etc.. 351C's were available with 4 bolt mains (HO or Boss). 2V heads and 4V heads were used depending on option. Originally 2V meant 2bbl carb. and 4V meant 4bbl carb. However it was soon discovered that the huge 4V ports were not much good for street applications.
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*351C and 351M crankshafts are not interchangeable. They have the same stroke but journal diameters are different, 2.75" Vs 3.00". *Connecting rods are not interchangeable between "M" & "C" motors, 6.58" Vs 5.78".
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*Australian Crankshafts are cast and have a raised 302, 351 or 4MA I.D. cast into the crank. Australian 302's have a longer connecting rod @ 6.00" (351C @ 5.78")
  
Made in Ford Australia-Geelong plant 1974 - circa 1984. 302C & 351C only.
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===Heads===
 
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8 cap screws retain rocker cover.
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Timing chain housing is part of block casting.
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Thermostat housing on block.
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Fuel pump mounting bolts are vertical.
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Exhaust bolt holes diagonal.
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351M/400: Intake is 12.7" wide the 351C is narrower (Differing Deck Heights). 302C/351C manifold approx. 11" wide (280mm).
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It is difficult to differentiate 351M from a 400 externally. The most accurate way is to remove the oil pan and look at the crank.
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400 Crankshaft ID. http://www.tmeyerinc.com/400crankshaftid.html
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351M/400 share the same transmission bolt pattern as the 429/460 (385 series)motors. One exception. The 400 was available with FMX in full size Fords in the early 70's and has the smaller bolt pattern.
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All 302C/351C blocks use the smaller 6 bolt transmission pattern, C4 or "Windsor" type etc.. 351C's were available with 4 bolt mains (HO or Boss). 2V heads and 4V heads were used depending on option. Originally 2V meant 2bbl carb. and 4V meant 4bbl carb. However it was soon discovered that the huge 4V ports were not much good for street applications.
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'''351C and 351M crankshafts''' are not interchangeable. They have the same stroke but journal diameters are different, 2.75" Vs 3.00". Connecting rods are not interchangeable between "M" & "C" motors, 6.58" Vs 5.78".
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'''Australian Crankshafts''' are Cast and have a raised 302, 351 or 4MA I.D. cast into the crank. Australian 302's have a longer connecting rod @ 6.00" (351C @ 5.78")
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'''Heads:'''
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Australia built Clevelands have 2V type heads, 59cc Closed chamber heads on 302C and 74cc open chamber heads on 351C.  
 
Australia built Clevelands have 2V type heads, 59cc Closed chamber heads on 302C and 74cc open chamber heads on 351C.  
  
'''Blocks:'''
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===Blocks===
 
At some point during Australian production the casting "CF" at the top of the rear of the block, next to the oil pressure sensor outlet was changed to "GF". Also at some point late during production in an attempt to reduce the clevelands tendency to overheat, a "pillow" block was produced to increase water capacity around the cylinders.
 
At some point during Australian production the casting "CF" at the top of the rear of the block, next to the oil pressure sensor outlet was changed to "GF". Also at some point late during production in an attempt to reduce the clevelands tendency to overheat, a "pillow" block was produced to increase water capacity around the cylinders.
  
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Australian blocks have a "cast in" thermostat bypass plate, not stamped steel type.  
 
Australian blocks have a "cast in" thermostat bypass plate, not stamped steel type.  
  
'''Intake manifolds and Carburetors:'''
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===Intake manifolds and carburetors===
 
Australian built clevelands used either a Cast Iron 2bbl or 4bbl manifold in 2v size ports. Initially 302C's were only available with the 2bbl (1974-1976) and 351C's had either a 2bbl or 4bbl option.
 
Australian built clevelands used either a Cast Iron 2bbl or 4bbl manifold in 2v size ports. Initially 302C's were only available with the 2bbl (1974-1976) and 351C's had either a 2bbl or 4bbl option.
  
 
Rochester carburetors were used on the 2bbls with an aluminum adapter plates. Carter Thermoquads were used on 4bbl spread bore type manifolds with an aluminum EGR plate. Early production 4bbl manifolds had large secondary inlet ports. Later production 4bbl manifolds had the secondary ports reduced in size in an effort to increase mileage and throttle response particularly on 302's with the 4bbl option.
 
Rochester carburetors were used on the 2bbls with an aluminum adapter plates. Carter Thermoquads were used on 4bbl spread bore type manifolds with an aluminum EGR plate. Early production 4bbl manifolds had large secondary inlet ports. Later production 4bbl manifolds had the secondary ports reduced in size in an effort to increase mileage and throttle response particularly on 302's with the 4bbl option.
  
To confuse matters Australian production 351C motors were mixed with US built clevelands (mostly 4bbl Autolite motors) through to about 1976-77. Early Australian production 302C's 1973-1975 (XA-XB Falcon)used US blocks with Aussie heads and crankshaft/conrods. Then it appears that US built "C" blocks bought by Ford Australia were used up to the late 70's in regular production.
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To confuse matters Australian production 351C motors were mixed with US built Clevelands (mostly 4bbl Autolite motors) through to about 1976-77. Early Australian production 302C's 1973-1975 (XA-XB Falcon)used US blocks with Aussie heads and crankshaft/conrods. Then it appears that US built "C" blocks bought by Ford Australia were used up to the late 70's in regular production.
  
 
== Ninety Degree Engine Family (221/260/289/302/BOSS 302/255/351W) ==
 
== Ninety Degree Engine Family (221/260/289/302/BOSS 302/255/351W) ==

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