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[[Image:Cadsuburban.jpg|frame|A Cadillac engine in an early Suburban]]
 
[[Image:Cadsuburban.jpg|frame|A Cadillac engine in an early Suburban]]
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[[File:Caddyv12.jpg|thumb|500px|Mid-'60s Caddy V12 60 degree SOHC engine- never reached production]]
  
 
==1946-'60==
 
==1946-'60==
 
*[http://www.secondchancegarage.com/public/488.cfm 1946-'60 Cadillac Engine Specs Index] from secondchancegarage.com
 
*[http://www.secondchancegarage.com/public/488.cfm 1946-'60 Cadillac Engine Specs Index] from secondchancegarage.com
  
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==1968- up general specifications==
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==1960-'69 general engine specifications==
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<font size="1"><table border="1" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="0" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tr bgcolor="#DDDFFF">
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{| border="0"
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<td align="center" ><b>Year</b></td>
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! Year !! Disp. !! Fuel !! Horsepower !! Torque@RPM !! Bore x Stroke !! Comp. ratio
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<td colspan="2" align="center"><b>Engine<br>HP|CID</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>Carb</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>Bore x Stroke<br>(Inches)</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>Comp.<br>Ratio</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>Brake<br>H.P.<br>@ RPM</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>Torque<br>Lbs.-Ft.<br>@ RPM</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>Oil<br>PSI</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>Spark<br>Plug<br>Type</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>Spark<br>Plug<br>Gap</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>Dwell<br>Angle</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>Firing<br>Order</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>Timing<br>BTDC</b></td>
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</tr><tr>
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<td  bgcolor="#ffffFF" rowspan="2" align="center" valign="top"><b>1960</b></td>
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<td ><b>325 Horsepower</b></td>
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<td align="right"><b>V8-390</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>4 Barrel</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>4 x 3.875</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>10.5</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>325 @ 4800</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>430 @ 3100</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>30-35</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>AC 44</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>.035”</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>30°</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>18436572</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>5°</b></td>
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</tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffFF">
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<td><b>345 H.P. Eldorado</b></td>
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<td align="right"><b>V8-390</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>3x2 Bar</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>4 x 3.875</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>10.5</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>345 @ 4800</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>435 @ 3400</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>30-35</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>AC 44</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>.035”</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>30°</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>18436572</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>5°</b></td>
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</tr><tr>
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<td rowspan="1" align="center" valign="top"><b>1961</b></td>
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<td ><b>325 Horsepower</b></td>
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<td align="right"><b>V8-390</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>4 Barrel</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>4 x 3.875</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>10.5</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>325 @ 4800</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>430 @ 3100</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>30-35</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>AC 44</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>.035”</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>30°</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>18436572</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>5°</b></td>
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</tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffFF">
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<td rowspan="1" align="center" valign="top"><b>1962</b></td>
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<td ><b>325 Horsepower</b></td>
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<td align="right"><b>V8-390</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>4 Barrel</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>4 x 3.875</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>10.5</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>325 @ 4800</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>430 @ 3100</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>30-35</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>AC 44</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>.035”</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>30°</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>18436572</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>5°</b></td>
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</tr><tr>
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<td rowspan="1" align="center" valign="top"><b>1963</b></td>
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<td ><b>325 Horsepower</b></td>
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<td align="right"><b>V8-390</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>4 Barrel</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>4 x 3.875</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>10.5</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>325 @ 4800</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>430 @ 3100</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>30-35</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>AC 44</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>.035”</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>30°</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>18726543</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>5°</b></td>
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</tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffFF">
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<td rowspan="1" align="center" valign="top"><b>1964</b></td>
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<td ><b>340 Horsepower</b></td>
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<td align="right"><b>V8-429</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>4 Barrel</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>4.13 x 4.0</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>10.5</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>340 @ 4600</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>480 @ 3000</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>30-35</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>AC 44</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>.035”</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>30°</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>18726543</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>5°</b></td>
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</tr><tr>
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<td rowspan="1" align="center" valign="top"><b>1965</b></td>
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<td ><b>340 Horsepower</b></td>
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<td align="right"><b>V8-429</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>4 Barrel</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>4.13 x 4.0</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>10.5</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>340 @ 4600</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>480 @ 3000</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>30-35</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>AC 44</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>.035”</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>30°</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>18726543</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>5°</b></td>
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</tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffFF">
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<td rowspan="1" align="center" valign="top"><b>1966</b></td>
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<td ><b>340 Horsepower</b></td>
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<td align="right"><b>V8-429</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>4 Barrel</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>4.13 x 4.0</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>10.5</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>340 @ 4600</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>480 @ 3000</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>30-35</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>AC 44</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>.035”</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>30°</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>18726543</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>5°</b></td>
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</tr><tr>
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<td rowspan="1" align="center" valign="top"><b>1967</b></td>
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<td ><b>340 Horsepower</b></td>
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<td align="right"><b>V8-429</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>4 Barrel</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>4.13 x 4.0</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>10.5</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>340 @ 4600</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>480 @ 3000</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>30-35</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>AC 44</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>.035”</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>30°</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>18726543</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>5°</b></td>
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</tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffFF">
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<td rowspan="1" align="center" valign="top"><b>1968</b></td>
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<td ><b>375 Horsepower</b></td>
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<td align="right"><b>V8-472</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>4 Barrel</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>4.30 x 4.06</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>10.5</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>375 @ 4400</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>525 @ 3000</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>30-35</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>AC 44N</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>.035”</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>30°</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>15634278</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>5°</b></td>
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</tr><tr>
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<td rowspan="4" align="center" valign="top"><b>1969</b></td>
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<td ><b>375 Horsepower</b></td>
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<td align="right"><b>V8-472</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>4 Barrel</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>4.30 x 4.06</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>10.5</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>375 @ 4400</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>525 @ 3000</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>30-35</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>AC R44N</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>.035”</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>30°</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>15634278</b></td>
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<td align="center" ><b>5°</b></td>
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</tr></table></font><br>
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'''Bold text'''
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==1968-'76 general engine specifications==
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{|border="1" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="0"
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|-bgcolor="#CCCCFF"  
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! Year !! CID !! Fuel !! Horsepower<br>@ RPM !! Torque<br>@ RPM !! Bore x Stroke<br>(inches) !! Compression<br>Ratio
 
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| 1968-'69 || 472 || 4bbl || 375@4400 || 525@3000 || 4.300x4.060 || align="center" | 10.5-1  
 
| 1968-'69 || 472 || 4bbl || 375@4400 || 525@3000 || 4.300x4.060 || align="center" | 10.5-1  
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|-bgcolor="#eeeeee"
 
| 1970 || 472 || 4bbl || 375@4400 || 525@3000 || 4.300x4.060 || align="center" | 10.0-1  
 
| 1970 || 472 || 4bbl || 375@4400 || 525@3000 || 4.300x4.060 || align="center" | 10.0-1  
 
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| 1970 || 500 || 4bbl || 400@4400 || 550@3000 || 4.300x4.304 || align="center" | 10.0-1  
 
| 1970 || 500 || 4bbl || 400@4400 || 550@3000 || 4.300x4.304 || align="center" | 10.0-1  
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|-bgcolor="#eeeeee"
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| 1971 || 472 || 4bbl || 375@4400 || 525@3000 || 4.300x4.060 || align="center" | 8.8:1
 
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| 1971 || 472 || 4bbl || 375@4400 || 525@3000 || 4.300x4.060 || align="center" | 8.8-1  
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| 1971 || 500 || 4bbl || 365@4400 || 535@2800 || 4.300x4.304 || align="center" | 8.5:1
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|-bgcolor="#eeeeee"
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| 1972-'73 || 472 || 4bbl || 220@4000 || 365@2400 || 4.300x4.060 || align="center" | 8.5:1  
 
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| 1971 || 500 || 4bbl || 365@4400 || 535@2800 || 4.300x4.304 || align="center" | 8.5-1  
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| 1972-'73 || 500 || 4bbl || 235@3800 || 385@2400 || 4.300x4.304 || align="center" | 8.5:1
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|-bgcolor="#eeeeee"
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| 1974 || 472 || 4bbl || 220@4000 || 365@2400 || 4.300x4.060 || align="center" | 8.25:1  
 
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| 1972-'73 || 472 || 4bbl || 220@4000 || 365@2400 || 4.300x4.060 || align="center" | 8.5-1  
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| 1974-'75 || 500 || 4bbl || 210@3600 || 380@2000 || 4.300x4.304 || align="center" | 8.25:1
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|-bgcolor="#eeeeee"
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| 1975 || 500 || EFI || 210@3600 || 380@2000 || 4.300x4.304 || align="center" | 8.25:1  
 
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| 1972-'73 || 500 || 4bbl || 235@3800 || 385@2400 || 4.300x4.304 || align="center" | 8.5-1
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| 1976 || 500 || 4bbl || 190@3600 || 360@2000 || 4.300x4.304 || align="center" | 8.5:1  
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|-bgcolor="#eeeeee"
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| 1974 || 472 || 4bbl || 220@4000 || 365@2400 || 4.300x4.060 || align="center" | 8.25-1
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| 1976 || 500 || EFI || 215@3600 || 400@2000 || 4.300x4.304 || align="center" | 8.5:1
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| 1974-'75 || 500 || 4bbl || 210@3600 || 380@2000 || 4.300x4.304 || align="center" | 8.25-1
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| 1975 || 500 || EFI || 210@3600 || 380@2000 || 4.300x4.304 || align="center" | 8.25-1
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| 1976 || 500 || 4bbl || 190@3600 || 360@2000 || 4.300x4.304 || align="center" | 8.5-1  
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| 1976 || 500 || EFI || 215@3600 || 400@2000 || 4.300x4.304 || align="center" | 8.5-1
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===Tune-up specifications===
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===1968-'76 tune-up specifications===
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{| border="0"
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{|border="1" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="0" 
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! Year !! Disp. !! Fuel !! Spark plugs !! Dist. !! Timing BTDC !! Intake opens !! Idle speed
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|-bgcolor="#CCCCFF"
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!Year!!CID!!Fuel!!Plug (gap in.)!!Ignition!!Timing<br>°BTDC!!Intake open<br>°BTDC!!Idle RPM
 
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| 1968-'69 || 472 || 4bbl || 44Ngap@.035 || points@.016 || align="center" | 5B || align="center" | 18B || align="center" | 550  
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| 1968-'69 || 472 || 4bbl || 44N (.035) || points .016"|| align="center" | 5B || align="center" | 18 || align="center" | 550  
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|-bgcolor="#eeeeee"
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| 1970-'71 || 472 || 4bbl || R46N (.035) || points .016"|| align="center" | 8B || align="center" | 18 || align="center" | 600
 
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| 1970-'71 || 472 || 4bbl || R46Ngap@.035 || points@.016 || align="center" | 8B || align="center" | 18B || align="center" | 600
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| 1970-'71 || 500 || 4bbl || R46N (.035) || points .016"|| align="center" | 7.5B || align="center" | 18 || align="center" | 600
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|-bgcolor="#eeeeee"
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| 1972-'73 || 472 || 4bbl || R46N (.035) || points .016" || align="center" | 8B || align="center" | 34 || align="center" | 600  
 
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| 1970-'71 || 500 || 4bbl || R46Ngap@.035 || points@.016 || align="center" | 7.5B || align="center" | 18B || align="center" | 600
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| 1972-'73 || 500 || 4bbl || R46N (.035) || points .016" || align="center" | 8B || align="center" | 34 || align="center" | 600
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|-bgcolor="#eeeeee"
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| 1974 || 472 || 4bbl || R45NS (.035) || points .016" || align="center" | 10B || align="center" | 21 || align="center" | 600  
 
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| 1972-'73 || 472 || 4bbl || R46Ngap@.035 || points@.016 || align="center" | 8B || align="center" | 34B || align="center" | 600  
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| 1974 || 500 || 4bbl || R45NS (.035) || points .016"|| align="center" | 10B || align="center" | 21 || align="center" | 600
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|-bgcolor="#eeeeee"
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| 1974 || 500 || 4bbl || R45NS (.035) || align="center" | HEI || align="center" | 10B || align="center" | 21 || align="center" | 600  
 
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| 1972-'73 || 500 || 4bbl || R46Ngap@.035 || points@.016 || align="center" | 8B || align="center" | 34B || align="center" | 600
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| 1975-'76 || 500 || 4bbl || R45NSX (.060) || align="center" | HEI || align="center" | 6B || align="center" | 21 || align="center" | 600  
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|-
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|-bgcolor="#eeeeee"
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| 1974 || 472 || 4bbl || R45NSgap@.035 || points@.016 || align="center" | 10B || align="center" | 21B || align="center" | 600
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| 1975-'76 || 500 || EFI || R45NSX (.060) || align="center" | HEI || align="center" | 12B || align="center" | 21 || align="center" | 600
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|-
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|}<br>
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| 1974 || 500 || 4bbl || R45NSgap@.035 || points@.016 || align="center" | 10B || align="center" | 21B || align="center" | 600
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| 1974 || 500 || 4bbl || R45NSgap@.035 || align="center" | HEI || align="center" | 10B || align="center" | 21B || align="center" | 600
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| 1975-'76 || 500 || 4bbl || R45NSXgap@.060 || align="center" | HEI || align="center" | 6B || align="center" | 21B || align="center" | 600  
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| 1975-'76 || 500 || EFI || R45NSXgap@.060 || align="center" | HEI || align="center" | 12B || align="center" | 21B || align="center" | 600
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|}
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==Firing orders==
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*[http://www.crankshaftcoalition.com/wiki/GM_firing_orders#Cadillac Cadillac firing orders]
  
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===Fastener torque specifications===
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==Fastener torque specifications==
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{| border="0"
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;{{!}}In ft/lbs
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{|border="1" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="0"
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|-bgcolor="#CCCCFF"
 
! Year !! Disp. !! Head !! Rod !! Main !! Crank damper !! Flywheel !! Intake !! Exhaust
 
! Year !! Disp. !! Head !! Rod !! Main !! Crank damper !! Flywheel !! Intake !! Exhaust
 
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| 1968-'76 || 472-500 || align="center" | 115 || align="center" | 40 || align="center" | 90 || align="center" | press fit || align="center" | 60 || align="center" | 30 || align="center" | 35
 
| 1968-'76 || 472-500 || align="center" | 115 || align="center" | 40 || align="center" | 90 || align="center" | press fit || align="center" | 60 || align="center" | 30 || align="center" | 35
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|}
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|}<br>
  
 
==Identification==
 
==Identification==
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==Modifications and swapping==
 
==Modifications and swapping==
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[[File:Mts cad head.jpg|thumb|left|600px|Cadillac HP MTS custom aluminum 76cc "FR" head, ~$3500/pair ca. 2012]] <br style="clear:both"/>
 
===Heads===
 
===Heads===
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The biggest gains in power output come with cylinder head work. Pre-1974 heads are small chamber 76 cc's and are good for around 12-13 to 1 compression when a flat top piston is fitted. Race gas, alcohol or propane fuel must be used.  
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The biggest gains in power output come from aftermarket cylinder heads (see photo). Stock heads can also be ported for more power. MTS/CHP and others do this type of work. Pre-1974 heads are small chamber 76cc and are good for around 12-13 to 1 compression when a flat top piston is fitted. Race gas, alcohol or propane fuel must be used.  
  
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The 1974 and later open chamber heads have 120 cc chambers giving compression ratios of 7.5-9 to 1 depending on the piston used.  
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The 1974 and later open chamber heads have 120cc chambers giving compression ratios of 7.5-9 to 1 depending on the piston used.  
  
 
Big gains can be made by adding larger valves. The valve sizes can be boosted to 2.19"/1.84" without worry of hitting the water jackets. The usual porting, valve unshrouding and minor bowl modifications will work, although the short-side radius should be left alone to avoid drastic differences in airflow. Roughly 20 hp can be gained by this work alone and most of that comes from the larger valves.
 
Big gains can be made by adding larger valves. The valve sizes can be boosted to 2.19"/1.84" without worry of hitting the water jackets. The usual porting, valve unshrouding and minor bowl modifications will work, although the short-side radius should be left alone to avoid drastic differences in airflow. Roughly 20 hp can be gained by this work alone and most of that comes from the larger valves.
  
 
The 1977-'79 425 heads have 108cc chambers giving about 10:1 compression ratio depending on the piston used. The 425 heads have restricted air flow due to their port design making them the least desirable for modification. The head gasket is different as well.   
 
The 1977-'79 425 heads have 108cc chambers giving about 10:1 compression ratio depending on the piston used. The 425 heads have restricted air flow due to their port design making them the least desirable for modification. The head gasket is different as well.   
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===Intake===
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The stock intakes used on the 472/500/425 engines leave a lot to be desired. They are a very low rise design, some are single plane, but not in a high performance sense. Also, the stock intake is of a "negative plenum" design in which the air/fuel mixture actually flows below the intake port, then back up to the port-not good for flow. It was made this way to clear the Eldorado hood, and consequently these aftermarket intake manifolds will not clear the stock Eldorado hood.
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MTS/CHP, Edelbrock and others make aluminum aftermarket intakes that are better suited for high performance duty.
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[[File:Mts single plane intake cad.jpg|thumb||left|600px|MTS/CHP single plane aluminum intake manifold]] <br style="clear:both"/>
  
 
===Block===
 
===Block===
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===Cam timing/degreeing===
 
===Cam timing/degreeing===
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The stock cam can benefit from advancing the cam timing 2 degrees, as these engines had retarded cam timing in stock form for emissions. Attach the degree wheel to the crank with a 9/16-24 fine thread bolt.
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The stock cam can benefit from advancing the cam timing 2 degrees, as these engines had retarded cam timing in stock form for emissions. Attach the degree wheel to the crank with a 9/16-18 fine thread bolt.
  
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==Transmissions==
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==Transmission bolt patterns==
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The ~1968-up 368, 425, 472, and 500 cid engines all use a "BOP" (Buick/Olds/Pontiac) bellhousing bolt pattern, so a TH350 or TH400 or "uni-bell" automatic will bolt right up to the back of the block as long as the proper Cadillac flexplate and torque converter are used.
  
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===TH350===
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The '56-'64 365/390/429 use a Cadillac-only "flat top" bolt pattern, which does not share dimensions with other GM bolt patterns. In 1965 most Cadillacs (there was a unique '64 carryover for '65 commercial cars) received a new "pad-mount" starter motor, which with two vertical bolts held the starter to a cast block pad. Previous design was a "flange mount" starter which bolted to the bell housing. In the case of the unique '64 with a factory installed engine-to-transmission adapter, the starter bolted to an adapter plate which was "sandwiched" between the block and an early Buick bolt-pattern TH-400. TH400 crankshafts use a flange and pilot which are not dimensionally the same as those of "Jetaway" crankshafts.  .  
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Some TH350 transmissions came with steel transmission cases in older military tanks and trucks; they would be best for mondo horsepower applications such as 1500+ hp cad engines. It's fairly easy to build a 2000 hp twin turbo Cad with 35 pounds of boost at 7:1 compression on alcohol. It's said the block can take it, but the cast crank might not be able to.
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===TH400===
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===TH350 and TH400===
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The basic 472 and the later 500 engines both use a Buick/Pontiac/Olds/Cadillac (BOPC) bell housing bolt pattern, so a TH400 automatic will bolt right up to the back of the block as long as the proper Cadillac flexplate and torque converter are used.  
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A TH350 can be built to stand up to the torque of a Caddy engine, but the cost may seem high compared to what a TH400 can be built for, to do the same job. It is an option, however. Some TH350 transmissions came with steel transmission cases in older military tanks and trucks; they would be best for mondo horsepower applications such as 1500+ hp cad engines.
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But the TH400 remains the "go to" transmission for many Cad engine applications; it's affordable, tough, and came as standard equipment behind many Cad engines from the mid-'60s onward.
  
 
====Front wheel drive====
 
====Front wheel drive====
 
The TH425 front-drive automatic transaxle also fits these engines as used in the Eldorado, although a special dual-sump oil pan and pickup are used with these transmissions due to the required half shaft clearance. Any RWD engine can be converted to FWD and vice versa if the proper oil pan and pickup are used, although two of the main cap bolts must be removed and swapped for studs with standoffs to mount the pickup bracket.  
 
The TH425 front-drive automatic transaxle also fits these engines as used in the Eldorado, although a special dual-sump oil pan and pickup are used with these transmissions due to the required half shaft clearance. Any RWD engine can be converted to FWD and vice versa if the proper oil pan and pickup are used, although two of the main cap bolts must be removed and swapped for studs with standoffs to mount the pickup bracket.  
  
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====4 wheel drive====
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====4-wheel drive====
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Another good thing about these engines using a TH400 transmission is that a BOPC patterned case can be assembled with the Chevy 4x4 tailshaft and associated hardware for use in an off-road truck. The engine weight is approximately 600 pounds fully dressed and splits the difference between small and big block Chevy, so suspension modifications are not usually necessary. Transfer case choice for a 4x4 should be a NP205, as fitted to some mid/late 1970's Chevy 1 ton trucks. The NP205 is a strong gear-driven transfer case and holds up nicely to the big Caddy's torque output.
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Another good thing about these engines using a TH400 transmission is that a BOPC patterned case can be assembled with the Chevy 4x4 tail shaft and associated hardware for use in an off-road truck. The engine weight is approximately 600 pounds fully dressed and splits the difference between small and big block Chevy, so suspension modifications are not usually necessary. Transfer case choice for a 4x4 should be an NP205, which was optional for and used in many 1973 to 1987 Chevy & GMC 1/2-ton, 3/4-ton and 1-ton trucks as well as 1/2-ton and 3/4-ton Suburbans from 1973 to 1987 plus some crew cab trucks from 1987 to 1991. The NP205 is a durable cast iron housing gear-driven part time transfer case and holds up nicely to the big Caddy's torque output.
  
 
===700R4 / 4L60 / 4L80E===
 
===700R4 / 4L60 / 4L80E===
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The [http://www.transmissioncenter.org/compushift_4l60e_4l80e.htm Compushift ECM] (Electronic Control Module) for the GM 4L60E/4L80E costs about $1150.00. A less expensive controller is the [http://www.optishift.com/ Optishift]; cost for it is around $600.00. For about half that amount, the [http://www.msgpio.com/manuals/mshift/4L60e.html MegaShift™ Transmission Controller] is available. It requires assembly and some knowledge of electrical circuitry, etc.
 
The [http://www.transmissioncenter.org/compushift_4l60e_4l80e.htm Compushift ECM] (Electronic Control Module) for the GM 4L60E/4L80E costs about $1150.00. A less expensive controller is the [http://www.optishift.com/ Optishift]; cost for it is around $600.00. For about half that amount, the [http://www.msgpio.com/manuals/mshift/4L60e.html MegaShift™ Transmission Controller] is available. It requires assembly and some knowledge of electrical circuitry, etc.
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===Cad engine to Chevy transmission===
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If a Chevy bolt pattern transmission is used, there are several adapters that will mate Cad engines that have a BOP bolt pattern to the Chevy transmission:
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*[http://www.jegs.com/i/JEGS-Performance-Products/555/60172/10002/-1?parentProductId= Jegs]
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*[http://www.summitracing.com/parts/TCI-230001/ TCI]
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*[http://www.hughesperformance.com/pdfs/HP9605.pdf Hughes] (looks identical to the TCI, and has same part number)
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*[http://www.summitracing.com/parts/TRD-0061/ Trans-Dapt]
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===Early Cad engine to late model GM transmission===
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*[http://www.transmissionadapters.com/cad_early.htm 1949-'63 Cad engines] from Bendtsen’s Transmission Center
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*[http://www.speedwaymotors.com/Early-Cadillac-to-Chevy-Transmission-Adapter,8762.html Adapter kit] allows you to put a Chevy automatic transmission (Powerglide, TH350, TH400, 700R4) behind a 1955-'64 Cadillac 331, 364, 390 & 429 engine, from Speedway.
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*[http://www.wilcap.com/webdoc8.html Wilcap early Cad adapters] for GM manual and automatic transmissions.
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===Early Cad to Ford transmission===
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*[http://www.speedwaymotors.com/Early-Olds-Caddy-to-Early-Ford-Transmission,5429.html Adapter] for 1932-'48 Ford transmission behind either a 1949-'64 Olds or 1949-'53 Cadillac V8.
  
 
==Engine mounting==
 
==Engine mounting==
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==Cadillac engine parts sources==
 
==Cadillac engine parts sources==
 
*[http://www.cad500parts.com/ Cad Company]
 
*[http://www.cad500parts.com/ Cad Company]
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*[http://www.500cid.com/ Maximum Torque Specialties]
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*[http://www.cadillachighperformance.com/ Formerly MTS - Now Cadillac HP ]
 
*[http://www.cadillacperformanceparts.com/ Cadillac Performance Parts]
 
*[http://www.cadillacperformanceparts.com/ Cadillac Performance Parts]
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==Forums==
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*[http://www.cadillacpower.com/forum/ Cadillac Power forum]
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*[http://caddy500.com/ High Performance Big Block Cadillacs forum]
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==Resources==
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[[Hopping up the 500 Cadillac]]
  
 
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