Adjusting hydraulic lifters
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| + | [[File:Hydraulic Lifter.jpg|thumb|200px|left|Generic hydraulic lifter]][[File:Schubeck hydraulic lifter made for zero lashing.jpg|thumb|150px|right|[http://www.schubeckracing.com/flathydraulic.html '''Schubeck hydraulic lifter'''] made to be zero-lashed]] | ||
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==Overview== | ==Overview== | ||
| + | The following is information and instructions on how to successfully adjust the preload on '''''adjustable''''' hydraulic lifter valve trains. For '''non adjustable''' valve trains, refer to [http://www.cranecams.com/pdf-tech-tips/hydro-lift.pdf Fast and Easy Way to Check Hydraulic Lifter Preload when using Non-Adjustable Rocker Arms] from Crane. | ||
| − | + | ==A word on the correct length pushrod== | |
| − | + | To obtain the correct [http://www.crankshaftcoalition.com/wiki/Valve_train_geometry '''valve train geometry'''], the correct length pushrod needs to be determined and installed before setting the lifter preload. Below are some things to check that could have changed the correct pushrod length: | |
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#Camshaft base circle diameter | #Camshaft base circle diameter | ||
#Pushrod length due to wear or replacement | #Pushrod length due to wear or replacement | ||
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#Valve seat height changes from seat replacement or from valve seat grinding/cutting done during valve jobs | #Valve seat height changes from seat replacement or from valve seat grinding/cutting done during valve jobs | ||
#Grinding the tip of the valve stem when doing a valve job or different length valves | #Grinding the tip of the valve stem when doing a valve job or different length valves | ||
| − | #Lifter height due to different manufacturer | + | #Lifter pushrod seat height due to different manufacturer |
| − | #Change in rocker arm type | + | #Change in rocker arm type, design, or ratio |
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| − | [[File:Lifter cutaway preload.jpg|border|400px|left]] | + | ==How much preload should I use?== |
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| − | == | + | [[File:Lifter cutaway preload.jpg|border|400px|right]] |
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| + | The basic idea is to set the lifter plunger to the center of its travel. That gives the most leeway for temperature expansion/contraction. The amount of turns needed to set the plunger in the middle of its travel will vary from engine to engine because of differences in the thread pitch, rocker ratio, and lifter design. | ||
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| + | The old Chevy factory manuals said to use anywhere from 1 to 1-1/2 or more turns after zero lash, but this has largely been replaced by using 1/2 to 1 turn total. For instance, Comp Cams recommends 1/2 turn for regular SBC lifters. | ||
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| + | The recommendation given to use 1/2 to 1 turn past zero lash is based on what has been shown to work well on many engines when using stock or most performance hydraulic lifters. However, the amount of preload may be different, depending on the type and brand of hydraulic lifters being used as well as the reasons mentioned above. For example, there are Rhodes lifters that are set using a feeler gauge- something that's traditionally reserved for solid lifters. ''Always refer to the manufacturer's instructions first before proceeding''. If the manufacturer's instructions differ from those given here, follow the manufacturer's recommendations. | ||
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| + | ==Should I "pump up" my lifters with oil before installing them?== | ||
| + | Generally speaking, no. The lifters can be dipped into a container of oil but unless the manufacturer's instructions tell you otherwise, there's no need to pump the lifters up before installing them. | ||
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| + | There are some exceptions to this. For instance Rhodes lifters DO recommend their "original" lifters be pumped up prior to installing and adjusting them to 3/4 of a turn, or so the lifter cup is about 1/16" below the retainer. The Rhodes "V-Max" lifters are adjusted so the plunger is from 0.010" to 0.030" from being ''fully compressed''- quite different than 'normal' hydraulic lifters are adjusted. | ||
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| + | ==Can I replace a damaged lifter with a new lifter?== | ||
| + | ;{{Note1}} See [http://www.crankshaftcoalition.com/wiki/Lifters#Repairing_or_replacing_lifters Repairing or replacing lifters] | ||
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| + | [[File:Lifter expolded view.jpg|thumb|200px|left|Arrow points to check ball retainer on the end of the plunger]] | ||
| + | [[File:Lifter clips 002.jpg|thumb|350px|Three styles of lifter cup retainers. The [http://www.truarc.com/pdfs/Truarc%20Catalog.pdf internal C-clip type] is stronger and should be used especially with solid lifters or when "zero lashing" lifters.]] | ||
| + | When a lifter is noisy, often all that has happened is the check ball retainer assembly isn't fully seated into the recess on the bottom of the plunger, or a speck of dirt has lodged between the check ball and seat. This can be fixed, but requires the intake to come off to get to the lifter. Usually you can clean up the sludge inside the lifter using carb cleaner and it will perform fine again, but first check the surface of the lifter that faces the cam, if it's flat or concave just trash it, it must be sligthly convex. | ||
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| + | Shown left, is a disassembled GM hydraulic roller lifter. Most current flat tappet lifters have the same internal construction as this roller lifter, although there are different styles. But as long as the styles are the same, the piston from one can usually be fitted into another body. The arrow shows the location of the cup, spring and check ball assembly mentioned above.<br style="clear:both"/> Details are at the page linked to above. | ||
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| + | ===Chevy OEM hydraulic roller cam and lifters=== | ||
| + | {{warning}}<blockquote>According to Crane's Director of Valvetrain Research and Development, Mark Campbell, valve lifts of more than 0.530 inch at the valve with a 1.5:1 rocker can allow the lifter to fall deep enough into the lifter bore (because of the lobe's small base circle) that the steel retainer can lose its grip on the lifter body. This allows the lifter to spin in the bore and destroy the camshaft.</blockquote> | ||
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| + | Crane sells a long travel lifter, [http://www.summitracing.com/parts/CRN-10535-16/ p/n 10535-16a] that will work for reduced base circle/high lift cams. | ||
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| + | ==Before beginning you will need to know:== | ||
[[File:Chev sb bb v8 firing order.jpg|right|frame]] | [[File:Chev sb bb v8 firing order.jpg|right|frame]] | ||
| − | === | + | ===The firing order and the direction the distributor rotates=== |
| − | * | + | *[http://www.crankshaftcoalition.com/wiki/Category:Firing_orders Firing orders and distributor rotation of various engines] |
| − | :The Chevy V8 is <font size="4">1-8-4-3-6-5-7-2</font> | + | *The Chevy V8 firing order is <font size="4">1-8-4-3-6-5-7-2</font> |
| − | * | + | *The Chevy V8 distributor rotation is <font size=4>CW</font> |
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| − | + | ===The order of the valves as they are located in the cylinder head=== | |
| − | + | *The small block Chevy V8 is <font size=4>E - I - I - E - E - I - I - E </font> | |
| + | Other engines can be found at the [http://boxwrench.net/specs_index.htm BoxWrench] site. | ||
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| − | ==Adjusting hydraulic lifters for proper preload== | + | ==Adjusting hydraulic lifters for proper preload== |
| + | The following adjustment procedure is based on instructions originally from Crane Cams. It is recognized by many as being the "go-to" method of valve adjustment. This method also works on any OHV engine using hydraulic lifters that has an adjustable valve train. | ||
| − | + | Some possible differences between various engines are the: | |
| + | *Firing order | ||
| + | *Order of the valves in the cylinder head | ||
| + | *Number of turns to set the preload (this determines the distance of the lifter plunger below the retainer) | ||
| + | ==='''EO/IC''' Method ('''E'''xhaust '''O'''pening/'''I'''ntake '''C'''losing)=== | ||
*'''In order to adjust the preload, the lifter must be properly located on the base circle or "Heel" of the lobe.''' | *'''In order to adjust the preload, the lifter must be properly located on the base circle or "Heel" of the lobe.''' | ||
At this position the valve is closed and there is no lift taking place. You will need to watch the movement of the valves to determine when the lifter is properly positioned for adjusting. | At this position the valve is closed and there is no lift taking place. You will need to watch the movement of the valves to determine when the lifter is properly positioned for adjusting. | ||
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'''3.''' Back off the intake rocker arm adjuster and remove any tension from the pushrod. Wait a minute or two for that hydraulic lifter' push rod seat to return to the "up" position. The spring inside the lifter will move the pushrod seat up against the retaining lock if you give it time to do so. (If you are installing brand new lifters they will be in the "up" position when they come in the box.) | '''3.''' Back off the intake rocker arm adjuster and remove any tension from the pushrod. Wait a minute or two for that hydraulic lifter' push rod seat to return to the "up" position. The spring inside the lifter will move the pushrod seat up against the retaining lock if you give it time to do so. (If you are installing brand new lifters they will be in the "up" position when they come in the box.) | ||
| − | '''4.''' Now spin the intake pushrod with your fingers while tightening down the rocker arm. When you feel a slight resistance to the turning of the pushrod, you are at '''zero lash'''. | + | '''4.''' Now spin the intake pushrod with your fingers while tightening down the rocker arm. When you feel a slight resistance to the turning of the pushrod, you are at '''zero lash'''. |
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| − | ''' | + | '''NOTE:''' If you are uncertain that you are feeling when all the lash has been removed (the "zero lash" point), '''jiggling the push rod up and down can give a better sense of when all the clearance has been removed'''. |
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| + | '''5.'''Turn the adjusting nut down one half to one full turn from the zero lash point. Lock the adjuster into position if using polyloks. The intake is now adjusted properly. | ||
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| + | '''NOTE:''' If using stock-type lock nuts, be sure to use new lock nuts; old lock nuts can back off and the preload will be lost. Do not use stock type lock nuts on aftermarket studs or the threads will be damaged. Follow the manufacturer's instructions. | ||
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| + | '''6.''' Continue to hand turn the engine, watching that same intake. It will go to full open and then begin to close.When it is almost closed, stop and adjust the exhaust rocker arm on that particular cylinder. (Again, when we see the intake almost closed, we are sure that exhaust lifter is on the base circle of the lobe.) Loosen the exhaust rocker arm and follow the same procedure described before in steps 3 and 4 to adjust this rocker arm. | ||
'''6.''' Both valves on this cylinder are now adjusted, and you can move on to your next cylinder and follow the same procedure again. | '''6.''' Both valves on this cylinder are now adjusted, and you can move on to your next cylinder and follow the same procedure again. | ||
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==Resources== | ==Resources== | ||
| − | *[http://www.crankshaftcoalition.com/wiki/Valve_train_points_to_check Valve train points to check] | + | ;Crankshaft Coalition Wiki articles: |
| − | *[http://www.crankshaftcoalition.com/wiki/Category:Firing_orders Firing orders] | + | :*[http://www.crankshaftcoalition.com/wiki/Valve_train_points_to_check Valve train points to check] |
| − | *[http://www.crankshaftcoalition.com/wiki/Category:Adjust_valves Adjusting valves] | + | :*[http://www.crankshaftcoalition.com/wiki/Category:Firing_orders Firing orders] |
| + | :*[http://www.crankshaftcoalition.com/wiki/Category:Adjust_valves Adjusting valves] | ||
| + | :*[http://www.crankshaftcoalition.com/wiki/Camshaft_install_tips_and_tricks Camshaft install tips and tricks] | ||
| + | :*[[Determining top dead center]] | ||
| + | :*[[How to make a timing tape]] | ||
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| + | ;Crane info: | ||
| + | :*[http://www.cranecams.com/pdf-tech-tips/hydro-lift.pdf Fast and Easy Way to Check Hydraulic Lifter Preload when using '''Non-Adjustable Rocker Arms'''] from Crane. | ||
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