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Why are people protesting in Ukraine<br><br>PLEASE DO NOT DISABLE CSS IN ELI5! There are many features of both form and function that are embedded in ELI5 CSS that we would really appreciate you to keep. Disabling CSS will not allow you to circumvent locked threads. If there is something wrong with the CSS that you would like us to fix, we may be able to help if you send us a message. Thanks! If you browsing on a client, just ignore this message!Top level comments are for explanations or related questions only. No low effort "explanations", single sentence replies, anecdotes, or jokes in top level comments.Don post just to express an opinion or argue a point of view.After receiving an adequate explanation, OP should mark the post Explained. Explained posts are still open to discussion!ELI5 isn a guessing game; if you aren confident in your explanation, please don speculate.Ukraine is balanced precariously between remaining a close partner of Russia, or joining the EU.The government want to remain friends with Russia. Russia wants another ally, and the Ukrainian government are being given deals like this as what commonly seen as a "reward" for staying loyal to Putin. It helps since the country is in financial difficulty and close to defaulting.A significant number of people in Ukraine, however, don care about that and want to move towards the EU, in the hopes of having higher standards of living and better trade with, and access to, the western world. The government is completely shutting out public opinion on this matter.Edit: This kinda blew up! The above is just an ELI5 simplification, I getting messages telling me I a moron for not explaining one thing or I hate Ukraine for not mentioning another, please don forget what the point of this subreddit is, it only intended as a barebones toplevel reply for anyone who wants a quick, easily understood overview. There lots to be said about the history of the current government, the geographic division of opinions, knock on effects that could happen if they did attempt to join the EU, etc. Also some people consider the government to be moving into dictatorship with unchecked new laws rushed out to stay fully in Putin pocket, some people consider the rioters to be childish idiots who just want to join the EU so they can emigrate to other countries freely. All that and more if you simply scroll down and read!If it was just a straight up question of deciding whether to ally Ukraine to Europe or to Russia, it might not have provoked quite the wave of anger. It also much about how it came about, and about Janukovitch himself.Basically, Janukovitch got into power in quite dubious circumstances, allegations of poisoning his opponent using Dioxin, falsifying election results, open threats and coercion, all backed by Putin since Janukovitch "pre sold" his victory to the Russians were rife. Poland, which started out under similar circumstances, but has since become an economic powerhouse to the point that West Poles now start buying property in East Germany. How was Janukovitch able to swing this? By constantly playing the EU against Putin, and wrangling money out of both sides for promises of future alliance. The protests now erupted because for several months it seemed like Janukovitch would finally relent to his people wish of becoming a Western nation rather than a vassal of Russia, only to do a complete about turn (again) at the very last minute (purportedly because Russia really reached deep into its pockets). People had kinda hoped that as Ukraine would move towards Europe, Janukovitch would go out of office without too much fuss some point later, he gets to keep his swindled money, Ukranians get a chance at economic prosperity without a bloody revolution. This hope has now been dashed, so the only thing that is left IS ousting Janukovitch, by any means possible. Janukovitch, having underestimated the backlash, shows his true colours immediately by reimposing Soviet era style legislation, in other words "doing an Assad" as it now known (missing the chance to take your winnings and move on, and rather go full Hitler when realising that you now in hot water).TL;DR: Useful background info: Janukovitch is a kleptokratic tyrant, which doesn help public moodIt a lot more complicated than that. To correct a number  it about 18% of Ukraine population who are classified as ethnically Russian .Ukraine and Russia have a long, intertwined history  after all, it was the people of Kievan Rus who moved north to found what would eventually grow into Russia. The idea of Ukraine as a nation is a fairly recent innovation, first as an idea in the 18th century and only as a reality in the 1990s  Ukraine has been dominated by foreign powers, with constantly changing borders, since the Mongols invaded in the 1200 That said, the Rusyns/Ruthenians (Belorussians and Ukrainians as common people) have maintained close cultural ties to the Russians during that entire period (leading to a Ukrainian rebellion against the Crown of Poland in the 1650 leading them to join the Belorussians in the Polish Lithuanian empire).After Russia annexed eastern Ukraine in the late 1700s, the tsars had a strict policy of Russification in Ukraine (it was not a Soviet innovation). That policy was continued under the Soviet Union. Many of the "Russians" in Ukraine have been in Ukraine longer than many Americans have been in America, and the count themselves as Ukrainians of Russian descent, not as Russian nationals.Also,burberry iphone 5 case, migration has always gone both ways  but with one big difference  Ukrainians moving to Russia often assimilate and count themselves as Russian. Also, during the Soviet Era, children of Ukrainian Russian marriages were usually counted as ethnic Russians, leading to a low count of people of Ukrainian descent in Russia and a high count of people of Russian descent in the Ukraine when it comes to census data.Obviously, the history and situation on the ground is much more complex than this comment suggests. I personally for a Ukraine more aligned with the EU, and find the current situation deplorable, but to dismiss the people who want closer ties with Russia as merely recent Russian transplants is unfair to them and their realities.

Why are people protesting in Ukraine<br><br>PLEASE DO NOT DISABLE CSS IN ELI5! There are many features of both form and function that are embedded in ELI5 CSS that we would really appreciate you to keep. Disabling CSS will not allow you to circumvent locked threads. If there is something wrong with the CSS that you would like us to fix, we may be able to help if you send us a message. Thanks! If you browsing on a client, just ignore this message!Top level comments are for explanations or related questions only. No low effort "explanations", single sentence replies, anecdotes, or jokes in top level comments.Don post just to express an opinion or argue a point of view.After receiving an adequate explanation, OP should mark the post Explained. Explained posts are still open to discussion!ELI5 isn a guessing game; if you aren confident in your explanation, please don speculate.Ukraine is balanced precariously between remaining a close partner of Russia, or joining the EU.The government want to remain friends with Russia. Russia wants another ally, and the Ukrainian government are being given deals like this as what commonly seen as a "reward" for staying loyal to Putin. It helps since the country is in financial difficulty and close to defaulting.A significant number of people in Ukraine, however, don care about that and want to move towards the EU, in the hopes of having higher standards of living and better trade with, and access to, the western world. The government is completely shutting out public opinion on this matter.Edit: This kinda blew up! The above is just an ELI5 simplification, I getting messages telling me I a moron for not explaining one thing or I hate Ukraine for not mentioning another, please don forget what the point of this subreddit is, it only intended as a barebones toplevel reply for anyone who wants a quick, easily understood overview. There lots to be said about the history of the current government, the geographic division of opinions, knock on effects that could happen if they did attempt to join the EU, etc. Also some people consider the government to be moving into dictatorship with unchecked new laws rushed out to stay fully in Putin pocket, some people consider the rioters to be childish idiots who just want to join the EU so they can emigrate to other countries freely. All that and more if you simply scroll down and read!If it was just a straight up question of deciding whether to ally Ukraine to Europe or to Russia, it might not have provoked quite the wave of anger. It also much about how it came about, and about Janukovitch himself.Basically, Janukovitch got into power in quite dubious circumstances, allegations of poisoning his opponent using Dioxin, falsifying election results, open threats and coercion, all backed by Putin since Janukovitch "pre sold" his victory to the Russians were rife. Poland, which started out under similar circumstances, but has since become an economic powerhouse to the point that West Poles now start buying property in East Germany. How was Janukovitch able to swing this? By constantly playing the EU against Putin, and wrangling money out of both sides for promises of future alliance. The protests now erupted because for several months it seemed like Janukovitch would finally relent to his people wish of becoming a Western nation rather than a vassal of Russia, only to do a complete about turn (again) at the very last minute (purportedly because Russia really reached deep into its pockets). People had kinda hoped that as Ukraine would move towards Europe, Janukovitch would go out of office without too much fuss some point later, he gets to keep his swindled money, Ukranians get a chance at economic prosperity without a bloody revolution. This hope has now been dashed, so the only thing that is left IS ousting Janukovitch, by any means possible. Janukovitch, having underestimated the backlash, shows his true colours immediately by reimposing Soviet era style legislation, in other words "doing an Assad" as it now known (missing the chance to take your winnings and move on, and rather go full Hitler when realising that you now in hot water).TL;DR: Useful background info: Janukovitch is a kleptokratic tyrant, which doesn help public moodIt a lot more complicated than that. To correct a number  it about 18% of Ukraine population who are classified as ethnically Russian .Ukraine and Russia have a long, intertwined history  after all, it was the people of Kievan Rus who moved north to found what would eventually grow into Russia. The idea of Ukraine as a nation is a fairly recent innovation, first as an idea in the 18th century and only as a reality in the 1990s  Ukraine has been dominated by foreign powers, with constantly changing borders, since the Mongols invaded in the 1200 That said, the Rusyns/Ruthenians (Belorussians and Ukrainians as common people) have maintained close cultural ties to the Russians during that entire period (leading to a Ukrainian rebellion against the Crown of Poland in the 1650 leading them to join the Belorussians in the Polish Lithuanian empire).After Russia annexed eastern Ukraine in the late 1700s, the tsars had a strict policy of Russification in Ukraine (it was not a Soviet innovation). That policy was continued under the Soviet Union. Many of the "Russians" in Ukraine have been in Ukraine longer than many Americans have been in America, and the count themselves as Ukrainians of Russian descent, not as Russian nationals.Also,burberry iphone 5 case, migration has always gone both ways  but with one big difference  Ukrainians moving to Russia often assimilate and count themselves as Russian. Also, during the Soviet Era, children of Ukrainian Russian marriages were usually counted as ethnic Russians, leading to a low count of people of Ukrainian descent in Russia and a high count of people of Russian descent in the Ukraine when it comes to census data.Obviously, the history and situation on the ground is much more complex than this comment suggests. I personally for a Ukraine more aligned with the EU, and find the current situation deplorable, but to dismiss the people who want closer ties with Russia as merely recent Russian transplants is unfair to them and their realities.