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[[Image:Pitted_rust_before.jpg|thumb|350px|Pitted rust before treatment.]][[Image:Pitted_rust_after.jpg|thumb|350px|Pitted rust after treatment.]]
 
[[Image:Pitted_rust_before.jpg|thumb|350px|Pitted rust before treatment.]][[Image:Pitted_rust_after.jpg|thumb|350px|Pitted rust after treatment.]]
  
Pitted rust is a common problem when dealing with body panels. The "best" way to deal with it is generously cut it out, and [[patching a body panel|replace it with new metal]]. However, this isn't always practical, so it's frequently handled by mechanically and/or chemically removing the rust, "filling" the pitted areas with a purpose-specific product, and priming. Newer methods introduced to the market include 'spray welding', where molten galvinized metal is sprayed on the rust pitted area until it is covered.[http://www.rustbustersllc.com/rustbustwebmovie.asf]See attached movie on how its done.
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==Overview==
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Pitted [[rust]] is a common problem when dealing with body panels. The "best" way to deal with it is generously cut it out, and [[patching a body panel|replace it with new metal]]. However, this isn't always practical, so it's frequently handled by mechanically and/or chemically removing the rust, "filling" the pitted areas with a purpose-specific product, and priming.
  
 
[[Image:Cab_corner_before.jpg|thumb|350px|Cab corner with pitted rust, before treatment.]][[Image:Cab_corner_after.jpg|thumb|350px|Cab corner with pitted rust, after treatment.]]
 
[[Image:Cab_corner_before.jpg|thumb|350px|Cab corner with pitted rust, before treatment.]][[Image:Cab_corner_after.jpg|thumb|350px|Cab corner with pitted rust, after treatment.]]
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====Mechanical removal of pitted rust====
 
====Mechanical removal of pitted rust====
*A spot blaster is useful for this, with silica as the medium ''(confirm, and get list of other acceptable media)''.
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*A spot blaster is useful for this.
 
*Also, the following can be used: metal brush, grinding wheel, die grinder, a wire wheel on a drill.  3M Clean-n-strip discs, Lava wheels.
 
*Also, the following can be used: metal brush, grinding wheel, die grinder, a wire wheel on a drill.  3M Clean-n-strip discs, Lava wheels.
  
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* Another alternative is to use phosphoric acid. It is readily available at home centers such as Home Depot under the brand name  Phosphoric Plus. It may be brushed on or a part may be soaked in the solution. Heavy pitting will take multiple applications with some wire brushing in between to speed the process. The chemical reaction of the phosphoric acid with iron oxide produces black, water-soluble iron phosphate, which can be scrubbed off. A follow up passivating treatment containing zinc phosphate, such as PPG DX520, can be used to prevent flash rusting. Phosphoric acid rust-removing products may or may not contain zinc phosphate, so read labels and directions carefully.
 
* Another alternative is to use phosphoric acid. It is readily available at home centers such as Home Depot under the brand name  Phosphoric Plus. It may be brushed on or a part may be soaked in the solution. Heavy pitting will take multiple applications with some wire brushing in between to speed the process. The chemical reaction of the phosphoric acid with iron oxide produces black, water-soluble iron phosphate, which can be scrubbed off. A follow up passivating treatment containing zinc phosphate, such as PPG DX520, can be used to prevent flash rusting. Phosphoric acid rust-removing products may or may not contain zinc phosphate, so read labels and directions carefully.
  
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===DIY electrolytic rust removal for smaller parts===
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See [[Rust#Electrolysis|Electrolytic rust removal]].
  
====DIY electrolytic rust removal for smaller parts====
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===Removal with heat===
 
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*Heat the pitted area until it glows, then cool it with oil on a rag. This fix should only be used on small areas because it can warp the surrounding metal, causing wrinkles and shrink marks.
Things you will need...
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-1 plastic tub big enough to submerge your gpart. Rubbermaid comes to mind.
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...or at least big enough to submerge half of it, and you can flip it and do the other half later.
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-1 box of WASHING soda (available at any big retail store near you.)
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-1 strip of scrap steel (NOT stainless. under NO circumstances should you use stainless steel for this method. The electrolytic reaction between the chrome and stainless will create a VERY nasty compound.)
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Rebar or a metal broom or mop handle would be good.
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-12v battery charger capable of a constant 2-amp current. (Make sure the clips aren't stainless steel.)
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-water
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-steel wool pad
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With the steel wool, gently remove any surface rust as well as you can without scuffing the metal.
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In a WELL VENTILATED area....
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Take the tub, mix one teaspoon of washing soda for each pint water.
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Put your grill in the water/soda mix, and hook up the NEGATIVE clip to the grill.
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The POSITIVE lead should be clipped to the steel rod and set in the water. Don't submerge it, but stand it up in the water against the side of the tub.
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Set your battery charger to a constant 2 amps...and walk away.
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You should start to see a fizz coming off your part. This is the electrolytic reaction that will remove the rust.
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Leave it overnight. Check it the next day.  If you're not satisfied, leave it submerged longer.
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This will even remove hard to get pitted rust, and will not harm the metal underneath.
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===Wire feed spray welding===
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Newer methods introduced to the market include 'spray welding', where molten galvanized metal is sprayed on the rust pitted area until it is covered. See [http://www.rustbustersllc.com/rustbustwebmovie.asf this video] for an example.
  
====Removal with heat====
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===Welding rust pinholes===
*Heat the pitted area until it glows, then cool it with oil on a rag. This fix should only be used on small areas because it can warp the surrounding metal, causing wrinkles and shrink marks. ''(confirm that this is acceptable practice, sounds borderline)''
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Rust pinholes can be difficult to repair because the "hole" is usually more like a "crater". The hole itself is at the bottom of a thinned-out, crater-like area of metal. First, remove any rust using the above methods. Then, these methods have been mentioned:
  
===Handling rust pinholes===
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*Clamp a piece of copper to the other side of the panel, covering the pinhole. Weld won't stick to the panel, and will act as a heat sink so the panel doesn't warp as much. Then, fill the hole in with a MIG welder. When done, unclamp the copper.
Rust pinholes can be difficult to repair because the "hole" is usually more like a "crater". The hole itself is at the bottom of a thinned-out, crater-like area of metal.
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First, remove any rust using the above methods.
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*Drill a hole though the pinhole that is just large enough to remove the jagged edges of the rust hole. If this hole is smaller than 1/8" just fill the hole with weld material. If the hole is bigger than 1/8" and smaller than 3/8" get a nail that the shank will fit though the hole but that the head won't. Remove any coating from the nail. Put the shank though the hole from the back side. Hold the nail's shank while welding the nail to the panel. Be sure to hold the nail tight against the inside of the panel. After the weld has cooled cut off the shank of the nail and grind the substrate smooth. If the hole is bigger than 3/8" it is time to begin cutting out larger areas of metal and welding in new sheetmetal. Before you start any welding process make sure to apply weld though primer to provide proper protection from future rust.
  
Then, these methods have been mentioned ''(confirm)'':
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*Solder filling can be done with specially formulated flux and solder combinations at temperatures as low as 350 degrees Fahrenheit.
*Clamp a piece of copper to the other side of the panel, covering the pinhole. Then, fill the hole in with a MIG welder. When done, unclamp the copper -- it won't stick to the panel, and will act as a heat sink, so the panel doesn't warp as much.
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*Drilling and patching -- explain.
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*Solder Flowing can be done with specially formulated flux and solder combinations at temperatures as low as 350 degrees Fahrenheit.
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==Filling in the pits==
 
==Filling in the pits==
 
Now that the rust has been removed, the pitted area of bare metal has to be filled. First, clean with a wax and grease remover ''(confirm this, and add other cleaning/coating options here)''. Then, the pits are typically filled by priming with a high-build primer, filler or similar product. Generally, the less product used, the better. However, it may be necessary to repeatedly prime and block sand to fill the pits.
 
Now that the rust has been removed, the pitted area of bare metal has to be filled. First, clean with a wax and grease remover ''(confirm this, and add other cleaning/coating options here)''. Then, the pits are typically filled by priming with a high-build primer, filler or similar product. Generally, the less product used, the better. However, it may be necessary to repeatedly prime and block sand to fill the pits.
  
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If the metal is to be chromed, then the pits should be filled with lead-free solder and then block sanded to contour. 
  
 
===High-build primers and related products===
 
===High-build primers and related products===
''(need more products listed here)''
 
 
*[http://www.evercoat.com/productDetail.aspx?pID=171 Evercoat FeatherFill G2]
 
*[http://www.evercoat.com/productDetail.aspx?pID=171 Evercoat FeatherFill G2]
 
*[http://www.evercoat.com/productDetail.aspx?pID=70 Evercoat FeatherFill]
 
*[http://www.evercoat.com/productDetail.aspx?pID=70 Evercoat FeatherFill]
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==Additional resources==
 
==Additional resources==
*[http://www.materialsengineer.com/G-Pitting-Corrosion.htm Pitting Corrosion] -- MaterialsEngineer.com
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*[http://www.materialsengineer.com/G-Pitting-Corrosion.htm Pitting Corrosion] from MaterialsEngineer.com
*[http://www.corrosion-doctors.org/Forms-pitting/Pitting.htm Pitting corrosion] -- Corrosion-Doctors.org
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*[http://www.corrosion-doctors.org/Forms-pitting/Pitting.htm Pitting corrosion] from Corrosion-Doctors.org
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pitting_corrosion Pitting corrosion] -- Wikipedia
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*[http://www.corrosion-doctors.org/Forms-pitting/shapes.htm Corrosion pit shapes] from Corrosion-Doctors.org
*[http://www.corrosion-doctors.org/Forms-pitting/shapes.htm Corrosion pit shapes] -- Corrosion-Doctors.org
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*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pitting_corrosion Pitting corrosion] from Wikipedia
  
 
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