Adjusting solid lifters

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==Adjusting lash==
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{{Note1}}Expect the lash to change on a new cam and lifters (not a lot, but noticeable) until the valve train is bedded in together. Once this is done, you won't need to adjust the lash very often, although you still need to occasionally check it. A good time to check the lash is at oil change intervals or before competition.
  
==Adjusting the lash==
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==Manufacturer's cold adjustment/first start up recommendations==
{{Note1}}Expect the lash to change (often it will tighten) on a new cam and lifters (not a lot, but noticeable) until the valve train is bedded in together. Once this is done, you won't need to adjust the lash very often, although you still need to occasionally check it. A good time to check the lash is at oil change intervals or before competition.
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==Cold adjustment/first start up==
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Because all engines are different, be sure to use this as a guide only. Checking what '''''your''''' engine does is important because of the variables involved.
 
Because all engines are different, be sure to use this as a guide only. Checking what '''''your''''' engine does is important because of the variables involved.
 
*In many cases the hot lash setting may be used for initial start-up unless the manufacturer's instructions say to do otherwise. If there's any question as to what cold lash to use for start up, refer to manufacturer's instructions.  
 
*In many cases the hot lash setting may be used for initial start-up unless the manufacturer's instructions say to do otherwise. If there's any question as to what cold lash to use for start up, refer to manufacturer's instructions.  
 
*After the engine is hot, the valves are to be adjusted to their correct hot lash setting.  
 
*After the engine is hot, the valves are to be adjusted to their correct hot lash setting.  
 
*Then after a '''complete''' cool-down (overnight is good), the lash is remeasured and recorded for future use when checking/setting the lash ''cold''. That will get it '''right''' as opposed to ''close''.  
 
*Then after a '''complete''' cool-down (overnight is good), the lash is remeasured and recorded for future use when checking/setting the lash ''cold''. That will get it '''right''' as opposed to ''close''.  
 
===Manufacturer's recommendations for cold lash settings===
 
  
 
===Comp Cams===
 
===Comp Cams===
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===Lunati===
 
===Lunati===
 
To adjust VALVE LASH ON MECHANICAL (solid) LIFTER CAMS, follow the same basic procedure as above (adjust with lifter on base circle of cam). Instead of hydraulic lifter
 
To adjust VALVE LASH ON MECHANICAL (solid) LIFTER CAMS, follow the same basic procedure as above (adjust with lifter on base circle of cam). Instead of hydraulic lifter
pre-load and zero lash, use the valve lash specs printed on your Lunati cam spec card. After engine start-up and break-in, change the oil and filter, and verify the valve lash settings. You’ll need to check this periodically based on vehicle usage. (The
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pre-load and zero lash, use the valve lash specs printed on your Lunati cam spec card.  
valve lash settings noted on the spec card are “HOT” settings, and will need to be verified with the engine at operating temperature.)
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==Tips==
 
==Tips==
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{{Note1}}Remember this correction adjustment is approximate and is only meant to get you close for the initial start up of the engine. After the engine is warmed up to its proper operating temperature range, you must go back and reset all the valves to the proper "hot" valve lash settings.<br>
 
{{Note1}}Remember this correction adjustment is approximate and is only meant to get you close for the initial start up of the engine. After the engine is warmed up to its proper operating temperature range, you must go back and reset all the valves to the proper "hot" valve lash settings.<br>
;Return to [[Adjusting solid lifters#Cold adjustment for first start up|''Cold adjustment'']], above.
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;Return to [[Adjusting solid lifters#Manufacturer's cold adjustment/first start up recommendations|''Manufacturer's cold adjustment'']], above.
  
;Setting Valve Lash on Mechanical Cams  
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===Setting Valve Lash on Mechanical Cams===
 
All the valves must be set individually and only when the lifter is properly located on the base circle of the lobe. At this position the valve is closed and there is no lift taking place. How will you know when the valve you are adjusting is in the proper position with the lifter on the base circle of the cam? This can be accomplished by watching the movement of the valves.
 
All the valves must be set individually and only when the lifter is properly located on the base circle of the lobe. At this position the valve is closed and there is no lift taking place. How will you know when the valve you are adjusting is in the proper position with the lifter on the base circle of the cam? This can be accomplished by watching the movement of the valves.
  
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# After the intake valve has been adjusted, continue to rotate the engine, watching that same intake valve. The intake valve will go to full lift and then begin to close. When the intake is almost closed, stop and adjust the exhaust valve on that particular cylinder. (Again, when we see the intake valve almost closed, we are sure that the exhaust lifter is on the base circle of the lobe.) Use the feeler gauge and follow the procedure described before in step 3.
 
# After the intake valve has been adjusted, continue to rotate the engine, watching that same intake valve. The intake valve will go to full lift and then begin to close. When the intake is almost closed, stop and adjust the exhaust valve on that particular cylinder. (Again, when we see the intake valve almost closed, we are sure that the exhaust lifter is on the base circle of the lobe.) Use the feeler gauge and follow the procedure described before in step 3.
 
# Both valves on this cylinder are now adjusted, so move to your next cylinder and follow the same procedure again. In the future you may find shortcuts to this method, but it still remains the best way to do the job correctly.
 
# Both valves on this cylinder are now adjusted, so move to your next cylinder and follow the same procedure again. In the future you may find shortcuts to this method, but it still remains the best way to do the job correctly.
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# Another and far superior method of adjusting the valves is to hand rotate the engine to bring up each piston in the firing order sequence. With the piston at TDC for that cylinder, both the intake and exhaust valves can be adjusted. You then rotate the engine 90 degrees and adjust the next cylinder in the firing sequence. The easy part of this is that you do not have start with number 1 cylinder, you can start with any cylinder and then follow the firing order. Once you have performed valve adjustment in this manner you will find that it is far faster and more accurate than other methods. You can also use it for what are considered tight lash cams or the infamous Duntov cam for the small block Chevy. Using the previously described method of EOIC (Exhaust Opening, Intake Closing) on tight lash cams will get you into trouble every time.
  
;Using Valve Lash to Help Tune the Engine (aka "lash loop")
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===Using Valve Lash to Help Tune the Engine (aka "lash loop")===
 
Ideally, the cam- if selected carefully- should be right when using the manufacturer's recommendations for lash and phasing (advance/retard vs. the crankshaft). But if there have been changes made to the engine or the cam isn't ideal, using a "Lash Loop" will point you in the direction the engine needs when replacing the cam.
 
Ideally, the cam- if selected carefully- should be right when using the manufacturer's recommendations for lash and phasing (advance/retard vs. the crankshaft). But if there have been changes made to the engine or the cam isn't ideal, using a "Lash Loop" will point you in the direction the engine needs when replacing the cam.
  
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This shows the engine a smaller cam with slightly less actual running duration and lift. You can use this method on a trial basis to see what the engine responds to and keep the setting that works the best. Just remember, the more lash you run, the noisier the valve train will be. If the clearance is excessive it can be harsh on the other valve train components. Therefore, for prolonged running of the engine we do not recommend increasing the amount of hot lash by more than +0.004" from the recommended setting. Nor do we recommend decreasing the hot lash by more than -0.008".
 
This shows the engine a smaller cam with slightly less actual running duration and lift. You can use this method on a trial basis to see what the engine responds to and keep the setting that works the best. Just remember, the more lash you run, the noisier the valve train will be. If the clearance is excessive it can be harsh on the other valve train components. Therefore, for prolonged running of the engine we do not recommend increasing the amount of hot lash by more than +0.004" from the recommended setting. Nor do we recommend decreasing the hot lash by more than -0.008".
  
{{Warning}}<br>
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===Tight lash warning===
 
"Tight Lash" camshafts cannot deviate from the recommended hot lash setting by more than +0.002" ''increase'', or -0.004" ''decrease''. "Tight Lash" cams are those which have recommended valve settings of only 0.010", 0.012", or 0.014" on the specification card. These lobe designs have very short clearance ramps and cannot tolerate any increase in the recommended valve lash. The extra clearance can cause severe damage to valve train components.
 
"Tight Lash" camshafts cannot deviate from the recommended hot lash setting by more than +0.002" ''increase'', or -0.004" ''decrease''. "Tight Lash" cams are those which have recommended valve settings of only 0.010", 0.012", or 0.014" on the specification card. These lobe designs have very short clearance ramps and cannot tolerate any increase in the recommended valve lash. The extra clearance can cause severe damage to valve train components.
  
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*If the engine is running normally, take both cold and hot lash readings. Those reading will obviously be close to the correct lash for that cam and engine.
 
*If the engine is running normally, take both cold and hot lash readings. Those reading will obviously be close to the correct lash for that cam and engine.
 
*If nothing is known about the cam and the engine isn't running, and the unknown cam has to be used, regardless- set the valves cold to 0.016" for an iron head and block engine. 0.016" is used because it's basically at the top of the "tight lash" range, and at the bottom of an old-school cam's wider settings. What you do NOT want to do is set the lash too loose! If you have aluminum heads, go 0.004" to 0.006" tighter on the cold lash.
 
*If nothing is known about the cam and the engine isn't running, and the unknown cam has to be used, regardless- set the valves cold to 0.016" for an iron head and block engine. 0.016" is used because it's basically at the top of the "tight lash" range, and at the bottom of an old-school cam's wider settings. What you do NOT want to do is set the lash too loose! If you have aluminum heads, go 0.004" to 0.006" tighter on the cold lash.
*Most cams have an ID engraved or stamped into them, often on the back end of the cam. The lift and duration @ 0.050" can also be measured if the equipment to degree the cam is available.  
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*Most cams have an ID engraved or stamped into them, often on the back end of the cam. The lift and duration @ 0.050" can also be measured if the equipment to degree the cam is available.
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*Most cam manufacturers will actually recommend setting (hot) lash on an unknown camshaft to .020/.020, and since you would be setting the lash cold in most instances, a very safe bet is to set the lash to .015/.015 for the initial start up. Assuming that there are no issues with the valve train and engine is running correctly. A lash loop can be performed to find the optimal setting for the camshaft.
  
 
==Special instructions for Duntov 30-30 cam==
 
==Special instructions for Duntov 30-30 cam==

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